ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- We told you how the man who found Caylee's remains called 911 months ago saying there was a bag in the woods. Starting on August 11th, meter reader Roy Kronk called police three times.
It turns out he wasn't the only one who had a feeling Caylee's remains were there.
The story of the meter reader who found the remains of Caylee Anthony in some woods near the Anthony home is well documented. That same meter reader, Roy Kronk, also called investigators several months prior to the discovery saying he had found something suspicious.
Now a group has come forward with startling evidence that may have pointed to something at the same spot several months prior.
Psychic Gale St. John, who has the show called ‘', was drawn to the same area on the same day and has the video to prove it. A video taken by St. John's daughter on the first day their search team "s" began looking for Caylee Marie Anthony seems to show that St. John felt their was something odd about the location.
St. John said she was riding with her apprentice, her daughter, a searcher and two cadaver dogs doing what they call a blind drive. They started at the Anthony's home just around the corner from the site.
"We just start fresh from the scene," said St. John. "And just drive to a location we feel the person is in."
In this case it didn't take St. John long. The video shows St. John taking a right on Suburban Drive, where there is now a make shift memorial.
"Alright, I've got to pull over," she can be heard saying on the video. "Guys I'm immediately pulled here." St. John is saying those words as she's driving up to the exact area where Caylee's remains were eventually found.
St. John says the feeling she got that day was overwhelming,
"You get very sick to your stomach," she said. "You feel as though you've been punched in the stomach and something knocks the air out of you."
St. John let her searcher out of the car with one of their cadaver dogs. She then drove up the road to see if the feeling got stronger. It didn't so she turned back around and again in that same area.
"Something's not right here something's not right here," St. John told her daughter on the video that day.
St. John and her crew took a look around.
"The dogs showed very heavy interest back in that area," said St. John. But they didn't get far. "You can only go so far, and its water," said St. John on the video.
St. John could not get permission from the property owner to go into the woods where Caylee's remains would be found so she did not return.
Last month when St. John learned Caylee's remains were found in the same area it wasn't really a shocker to her
"I honestly wasn't surprised at all," she said. "My reaction was that's where we said that we felt something."
If you want to watch the unedited Gale St. John video we have a link for you. But a warning here is some profanity.
GRACE: Joining us there in Orlando, just outside the Anthony home tonight, along with our producer, Natisha Lance, is Colleen Klocek and Moolah. She`s a K-9 instructor/trainer and member of team, along with her dog, Moolah. Ladies, thank you for being with us. To you, Colleen. What`s the latest in the search you took part in today?
COLLEEN KLOCEK, K-9 INSTRUCTOR/TRAINER: Well, actually, we went to several locations. We went to the area over by the Anthony home. There`s an elementary school. There`s ones (ph) across from there. We searched that area. We also went to another area on La Vista (ph). We searched there, came up with nothing. We`ve been searching very, very thorough, for that matter.
GRACE: Colleen? Colleen...
KLOCEK: Yes?
GRACE: ... what is leading you to these specific areas?
KLOCEK: A lot of it is the team members and their feelings, things that have driven them there, their feelings, different things that we`re sort of putting together as far as, you know, location-wise, like the difference in, like, the flowers, the woods, the grassy fields, things like that.
1.7.2009
Brian,
Thought you would find these pics interesting. They were posted on Delpi Thought of you in your radio show when I saw these about what Gale would be up against while searching in FL. I live on the west coast of FL, have seen 12 ft gators in our canal on the river (not the snakes tho!)
Kudos to Gale and her team for the searches they did – Hope all can appreciate her efforts after seeing these pics.
Chris
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Thanks Chris, I think they did a great job and just send this email to Gale :)
Brian
"HIDDEN OAKS SCHOOL AREA DOUBLE SEARCH PLEASE"
This was sent to me back in August, it's dated 8/14/2008 @ 12:16 AM...fond this in my recycle bin, if anyone knows who sent it, please contact me.
Brian
Hi Brian,
On page nine you ask who sent you the map you discovered in your recycle bin dated 8/14. I think you might have posted it. You have two other maps of the same location showing behind the Anthony home, asking that Gale search there. you have a dd, no # that say's "317 behind home," I still think it is .317 miles behind the house but instead of straight back it is to the left. A person named, Angela on the same page noted you were wanting to search behind the Anthony's and said, you can get behind the house by going down Hopespring drive and turning right on Suburban, There is a pond back there also. This is all on page two, a little more than 1/2 way down the page.
Hope this helps with your question.
Diane
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Thanks Diane :)
Brian
1.8.2009
DD from last night per request, I do think its going to happen.
Brian
1.9.2009
Brian, me again LOL
I just wanted to share this new BOMBSHELL with you that a dear woman posted on Delphi forums:
Friday, January 9, 2009 – updated: 7:02 pm EST January 9, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- WFTV's legal analyst viewed the video showing a private investigator for the Anthony family talking on the phone and digging with a shovel at the scene where Caylee's body was later found. That private investigator was caught on camera, but until Bill Sheaffer had a chance to view it, few details were known about what the video showed.
"He was digging in the soil. He had a probe that he was probing in the soil. He was also picking up items at the crime scene and tossing them aside," WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer told Eyewitness News on Friday.
Sheaffer said the Anthonys' private investigator, Dominic Casey, picked up what appeared to be a blanket at the scene and tossed it aside and that it did not appear Mr. Casey and his colleague, private eye Jim Hoover, who was behind the camera, were doing a random search.
Sheaffer said Mr. Casey appeared to be focused on areas where there was a configuration of stones or concrete pavers, not just at the crime scene, but also at what appeared to be an abandoned back yard where Mr. Casey was actually digging.
"Mr. Casey was digging in the area, actually digging with a garden shovel, in an area where it appeared to be a black plastic bag sticking out of the earth," Sheaffer said.
Sheaffer said it was obvious Mr. Casey knew the camera was rolling because he was actually directing Mr. Hoover on where to shoot.
Sheaffer said, back at the scene the second day, Mr. Casey was probing the ground with a metal rod and not just superficially but deeply enough that he could have destroyed evidence.
"It was a metal probe and if he hit the skull or the bones of that skeletal remains he could have fractured it, he could have otherwise altered it and it would have thrown the whole forensic examination of the bones off," he said.
Questions remain about who Mr. Casey was talking to at the scene on the phone and who told him where to look and what to look for.
Bailey
Hi Brian,
I know you want to focus on other missing people now that Caylee has been found, but I did not see on your site that anyone posted this so I am not sure if you have seen this or heard about it yet. Casey was ordered to be in court yesterday for the hearings and these videos show her there at court. These are long though, but the 2nd part is where Casey can be seen, and at the end of Part 1 also I believe:
Also, WOW, just saw your new DD!!! Do you feel all of the Anthony's will be arrested?? Do you think these are the three the psychics are talking about that will be arrested, and one will come forward and talk? Interesting, I thought Lee would be arrested, but not all of them. Are you thinking that the report came back on the duct tape? If so, this seals the deal, Zenaida Gonzalez would not be able to plant that evidence like the family is insinuating she broke into their house and used their computer etc.....
Anyway, thanks for your time.
Take Care,
Bailey
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Hi Bailey, not sure, thought Cindy would have already been arrested...watching these now...well guess not, videos are not loading.
Were they removed?
Brian
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strange, try again, I just clicked on the link and it worked
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Yes, very odd.
Brian
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so you tried again and it didn't work?? Here is the main page from WFTV site, scroll down a bit and you will see the links (not off to the side with the other links but right after this headline CASEY FORCED TO APPEAR IN COURT FOR HEARING)
This is a news Video from Myfoxorlando.com, With Brad Conway claiming the video of Dominic Casey, belongs to them since Jim Hoover was working for the Anthonys at the time he recorded it.
I saw that Conway came up again on the dd on page 9 about the "Anthony family will be arrested." Is it possible to do a dd on him to see if you can find out why his name keeps coming up so often, even before he was involved in this. Maybe something more than just because he is their attorney. Originaly I thought it was the area of Conway that you dreamed about.
Thanks
dDiane
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Hi Diane, not sure...this case is getting weirder by the day...I think Conway is an area, but anything is possible.
Will do another DD for you.
Brian
1.12.2009
Video, poor quality.
Gale, today.
and on Nancy Grace :)
As to the 'psychic' this PI was talking on the phone with, I think he's now telling the truth...he changed his story with the knowledge his phone records would be now be checked.
Regardless, from what I know, Caylee remains have not been buried...I do have an issue with that.
Brian
1.13.2009
Brian,
I know you have been busy with the Caylee case and others. May God Bless you this Christmas. Real Big! I still am believing what I "saw" with access/utility, and it was an accident. But it wasn't Casey who put the body there. I tried to email you that but anyway they found her and the rest is up to the courts.Thanks for accepting me on, look forward to helping again. Hugs, Deb
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Thanks Deb, who do you put the body there? I think it was an accident too, and the truth will come out soon.
Brian
The blind drive video again, in case anyone's has not seen it. They
stopped at the exact area where Caylee's remains were found.
Today I checked in on the Caylee A case and didn't realize you were still doing updates. Wow, your last dd I think is very correct. Actually I think they are all correct.
What I am writing you about is remember the radio show where you were trying and trying to get Gayle to get behind anthonys house. She was on the phone while we, the audience, was listening. She was saying she had no where to park and not be seen. I remember this because I was searching online trying to find a way and even sent you a map of behind her house with an area to park on and they could walk some. Brian, I don't think you realize how determined you were for them to search the properties behind the house area. Go back and listen. It was about the time before Debra started all of that mess about the charge card stuff.
Thanks,
Lisa
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Hi Lisa, will do...I was sure Gale was going to find her. Anyway, we all tried to help :)
Brian
P.S. Debra did send me a map, and I remember her telling me to have them search it again...her location was right on....despite the issues, her work was very good and has not gone unnoticed by me. Do you remember the show number?
This is the video of the Psychic that lead the PI to the area where Caylee was found.
Brian
images: the follow are all the images that may or may not be posted in this case file.
FW: BREAKING NEWS: Documents Show Heart-Shaped Sticker Was On Tape Over Caylee's Mouth
hopefully they will have finger prints also
Sue
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Thanks for the update Sue.
Brian
1.23.2009
Brian:
You prolly have this but just wanted to make sure. I think they are suppose to have a news conference at 3:00 p.m. today but I am not sure if eastern time or my time, central time.
Have a great weekend. Oh, I have been working lately but I have my iphone that I try to keep up with. I have went to your chat and TV but the iphone doesn't use adobe flash so I can only hear you. Just wanted to let you know this because I can't participate but I do listen. I will try to finish sighning up when I get off early enough at home.
From page 1, and I do think they are relevant, if Cindy confesses, I think Casey will too.
Brian
"It was an accident, drugs could not cover up the pain * blue t-shirt in bedroom *
trash was removed * police have just searched the park, she was there"
"tell Casey her mother confessed - it will work. The child was wrapped in trash bags, drum liners,
accident - drugs cannot cover the pain. She will confess, brown box 6, Caseys mom knows all - 4 - 8 ?"
Hey Brian, I have been wracking my brain with the number 317 that you posted as well as the word Conway. After researching I found that there is a hotel at 7900 Conway near the airport (as well as others). Her cell phone did have a lot of pings in the airport area, so what if on the night of the 15th or early morning on the 16th, when Lee said Casey and Cindy got into an argument, Casey leaves and of course would take Caylee with her out of spite. She goes to a hotel/motel and is in room 317. Remember she also had the story about Zenieda and her sister getting in an accident and staying at a hotel. Maybe there is some truth to this story, but it was her and Caylee at the hotel and not a member of the Gonzalez family. She always does tell some truth in her lies.
Just thought maybe you could dream on this again and see what you come up with.
Take care Brian
Linda
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Thanks Linda, good points, will try again tonight...if I get anything, will post it.
Have u seen this. She says she knows people in the Anthony home.
I think it explains some of your dd's and rv's re: Caylee Case. Especially the bottom part and I read off of a forum that most people in that forum believe it is true.
The line between good and evil is so clear on Nancy Grace's hour of outrage on Headline News.
James Rainey January 28, 2009
Bombshell.
I've been here at my desk watching Headline News and I've discovered something shocking -- nay, stunning -- nay, outrageous -- about myself: I find Nancy Grace oddly soothing.
Sure, I could tune in another program and hear about jobs disappearing, banks collapsing and Congress bickering about it all. But that would be so confusing. So bleak.
Here in Graceland, the world is so much better. So much clearer. Grace tells us when really big things are happening by declaring, "Bombshell." As in: "Bombshell. Grandfather George Anthony at a breaking point."
Here in Graceland, we don't like criminals and defense lawyers. We don't like people who think criminals might not be criminals. Because they obviously are. And we especially love children and Grace's beautiful twins (she talks about them all the time) and the way Grace is a much better mother than, say, Casey Anthony.
Anthony is the twentysomething mom accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, in Florida last summer. You would know that and how especially furious we all are about that if you had watched even one segment of Grace's hour of outrage.
It turns out that I'm not the only one who has been drawn in, hypnotized even, by Grace's fury and relentless pursuit of the obvious. Ratings for "Nancy Grace" jumped 42% last year over the prior year, to more than 1.3 million if you count the program's repeat hour each evening (seen in Los Angeles at 5 and 7 p.m.). That leap helped Headline News to its highest-ever ratings, apparently cementing the cable outlet's commitment to fare that is sensational, simplistic and, yes, oddly comforting.
Turner Broadcasting recently renamed the Headline News simply HLN. But it might as well have gone with CAN, as in Caylee Anthony Network, because HLN has been riding the toddler's demise for hours each day.
If you've caught Grace in an earlier incarnation, say on Court TV, you'll recognize the basic package: the helmet of platinum blond above angry eyebrows and eyes that narrow at the slightest hint of sympathy for the accused.
Don't fret if you missed a moment of the tragedy of Caylee, who disappeared last summer before her remains were discovered not far from her grandparents' Orlando-area home. Grace's opening montage each night regurgitates the details of the discovery as if it happened yesterday -- the "beautiful 2-year-old Florida girl," her little body "skeletonized" and "double-bagged like she's trash."
In Graceland, old is new, and Grace's outrage over the killing seemingly expands by the day. So she trumpets stale and incremental developments and endlessly flogs grainy jailhouse clips of the petulant and self-obsessed suspect, Casey Anthony, who, for simplicity's sake, has been renamed: Tot Mom.
Graphics flash and a bright red "Breaking News" crawls across the screen, as Grace "unleashes" panels of "experts" and lawyers.
"Unleash" is an apt description, as the witnesses use the merest scrap of information to speculate furiously about the culpability of not only the suspect, but of boyfriends, relatives, apparently anyone.
Grace's magic formula has now spread through much of HLN's programming. So when Jane Velez-Mitchell replaced Glenn Beck as the Grace lead-in in November, she quickly bested the conservative bloviator's ratings.
How? By also focusing relentlessly on Caylee's death.
Velez-Mitchell wrung her hands Thursday night about how someone had released details about Casey Anthony's dad being placed on suicide watch, worrying he had failed as a husband and father.
Once a sober anchor at KCAL-9 here in L.A., Velez-Mitchell called those revelations "heartbreaking."
"Who's leaking it? Is that going to help him get better?" she demanded. "Of course not." So this is why the news hostess, deeply concerned about the Tot Grandpa, tells a national television audience about his woes?
But never mind. As I said, there is a purity of thought and presentation here in Graceland that can make a viewer feel so warm, so cozy.
The women who call from around the country frequently coo to Grace about how adorable her twin girls are, before launching into venomous attacks on the day's bad guy. Panelists cluck-cluck and furrow their brows.
This week, Jaime Salcedo emerged as the villain of the moment.
The businessman went on Grace's program to announce his plan to sell a Caylee doll for $29.99. Press its belly and it sings "You Are My Sunshine," just like the toddler did. Grace glowered and shook her head when Salcedo attempted to justify this shameless commerce. She got especially peeved when the man who brought the world the Michael Vick chew toy (for your dog) didn't seem too clear about which charity would supposedly benefit from the Caylee doll sales.
Throughout the day Tuesday, HLN's hosts and guests savaged Salcedo's doll as "gross" and "horrific."
Shame, shame on Salcedo for trying to bust up our friendly party.
As his appearance ended, he had the audacity to suggest it was the hucksters on the other side of the camera who were exploiting victims like the Anthonys.
Said Salcedo: "I would say what [the media] are doing and how they circle around them is adding to their pain."
Bombshell.
CASE FILE CLOSED
Ok, I've seen and heard enough, this case file is now closed...I will not longer be posting anything additional here.
I don't care if the earth opens up, and the devil himself shows up at the Orange County Jail to take Casey home...I will not be talking about it anymore :)
Thank you to everyone that's helped, and would appreciate your continued support on other cases...were its desperately needed.
The hundreds of pages of letters do not contain a confession, but Anthony frequently complained about her family in the letters she wrote to a female drug dealer she befriended at the Orange County Jail. Anthony also wrote of her profound dislike of her former boyfriend, Jesse Grund, indicating that she was relieved when he informed her that DNA tests proved he wasn't her daughter's father.
“We're not concerned with anything in there. There's no admissions," said Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez prior to the release of the documents.
After the documents were made public, a spokesperson for the Anthony defense team described the letters as, "the natural desire for companionship when isolated for 23 hours a day, and clearly demonstrate Casey's unconditional love for her daughter Caylee."
The inmate who received Anthony's notes, Robyn Adams, told investigators she did not want to "get anyone in trouble," but said a county corrections officer may have helped the women stay in touch, according to prosecution records cited by the newspaper.
"It is obvious in the letters authored by Robyn Adams that her sole purpose and only goal in corresponding with Casey Anthony was to create leverage to get out of prison early," said Liz Brown on behalf of the defense.
What exactly was Adams’ motivation for communicating with Casey is unknown, but excerpts from letters written by Adams to a person outside the jail may shed some light:
“Today the C.O. found a letter that I had written to Casey and I got into a lot of trouble so this will surely be the last of the letters that I receive from her, unless it is by mail when I move to the new place as I promised her that I would write.” Adams goes on to say, “I have to get rid of these notes from Casey so she doesn’t get in trouble too. Do you think one day they’ll be worth anything? Maybe a spot on the ‘Today’ show or ‘Oprah’ if anything comes of it. Who knows? I am her only friend here, but that might be like betrayal, and I don’t want that!”
Show #3 - Casey Anthony's Legal Defense Team using psychic footage to prove Casey is innocent?
Did Psychic Gale St. John and Meter-reader Roy Kronk move Caylee's body? Here is the actual
unedited video...judge for yourself. What does Jeremiah Lyons really want from Gale and her
team?
8.30.2010
Roy Kronk and the 911 calls:
Gale says she saw Mr. Kronk during the blind drive video of 8/11/2008, he was at the location they were filming and approx. 20 feet from where Caylee's body was found. The tapes were made on Aug. 11th, 2008...oddly enough, Mr. Kronk made a 911 call that same day....and it looks like 30-40 minutes after Gale and her friends left the area. I'm looking through the video now, if I see Mr. Kronk, I will post the clip.
copy of 911 calls made (from our dear friends at Channel 9)
IMO, Mr. Kronk overheard Gale and friends talking...thought to himself Gale could be correct and placed the 911 call....again and again. When the water finally cleared, he whet back and found the body...and called 911 again.
I've tried to reach Mr. Kronk, however it's been difficult...this SM post is starting to make sense now...personally I would give Gale the credit on this one...she's invested more time in this case than anyone I know.
Subject: FW: State of Florida v. Casey Anthony CF08-15606
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:56:34 -0400
Gale & Tamra St. John,
I actually found a court reporter's office in Columbus, OH that you can attend the deposition via Skype / WebEx. The name of the company is Armstrong & Okey, Inc, 222 East Town Street, 2nd Fl, Columbus, OH 43215.
Please contact me upon receipt of this email so that we may coordinate a date sometime next week.
Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.
Arleen M. Zayas
Legal Assistant II
for Linda Drane Burdick, Andrew Leone,
and Lisa Gong (D. 15)
Sex Crimes / Child Abuse Unit
415 N. Orange Avenue
Post Office Box 1673
Orlando, FL 32802
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